Planning Applications Reference:18/03711/AR

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Type of Application:Advertisement Consent
Status:Pending Consideration
Address of Proposal:Red Lion, 468 Wellsway, Bath, Bath And North East Somerset, BA2 2UA
Ward:Odd Down
Proposal:Installation of illuminated & non-illuminated signs, fascia sign, 3 post mounted signs, wall display, sign writing & lantern.
Planning Portal Reference Number:PP-07219629
Applicant Name:Mitchell & Butler
Agent Name:Omega Signs
Agent Address:Newmarket Approach, Leeds, LS9 0RJ
Case Officer Name:Dominic Battrick
Date Application Received:17/08/2018
Date Application Validated:21/08/2018
Standard Consultations sent on:21/08/2018
Target Decision Date16/10/2018


ConstraintsAgric Land Class 3b,4,5, Article 4 HMO, LLFA - Flood Risk Management, Listed Building, MOD Safeguarded Areas, Policy B4 WHS - Boundary, Policy B4 WHS - Indicative Extent, Policy CP9 Affordable Housing Zones, Policy NE1 Green Infrastructure Network, Policy NE5 Ecological Networks, SSSI - Impact Risk Zones
Related Property:Red Lion,468 Wellsway,Bath,BA2 2UA.
Reference Proposal Application Received Status
97/00750/LBA .Installation of new external lighting to terrace, illuminated menu box and internal alterations22/08/1997Consent
97/00749/FUL .Installation of new external lighting to building; illuminated menu box, and internal alterations.22/08/1997Application Permitted
97/00795/AR .Display of 2 free standing signs05/09/1997Application Refused
03/00708/AR .Display of 1No. free standing post sign, 1 No. car park entrance sign and 2 No. sets individual letters.13/03/2003Consent
03/01229/LBA .2 No. sets individual letters.12/05/2003Consent
03/01265/FUL .Erection of 1 metre high picket fence16/05/2003Application Permitted
03/01295/LBA .Internal and external alterations including redecoration and the replacement of carpets and existing fixtures and fittings16/05/2003Consent
05/00676/FUL .Replace existing ramped access and new wider door to meet new DDA regulations.22/02/2005Application Permitted
05/00675/LBA .Replace existing ramped access and new wider door to meet new DDA regulations.22/02/2005Consent
06/04391/LBA .Provision of white picket fence to front and rear of building to contain extended outdoor drinking and eating area21/12/2006Consent
08/01439/FUL .Erection of rear smoking shelter with associated heaters/furniture etc.17/04/2008Application Withdrawn
08/02005/LBA .Erection of rear smoking shelter with associated heaters and lights04/06/2008Application Withdrawn
08/02652/LBA .External alterations to include erection of smoking shelter to rear terrace including associated heaters and lights18/07/2008Consent
08/02649/FUL .Erection of smoking shelter to rear terrace including associated heaters and lights (re-submission)18/07/2008Application Permitted
10/01809/FUL .Internal and external alterations and creation of new service yard28/04/2010Application Permitted
10/01810/LBA .Internal and external alterations to include removal of, and provision of new, kitchen ventilation equipment; creation of new service yard including walk-in freezer; enlargement of opening on eastern elevation to provide fire escape; new door on north east elevation; and internal amendments to provide for relocated kitchen and customer toilets28/04/2010Consent
11/04061/AR .Display of new signage to replace existing16/09/2011Application Refused
11/04059/LBA .External alterations for the display of new signage16/09/2011Application Refused
11/05331/LBA .Internal and external alterations to include the creation of new service yard and new kitchen extract system.13/12/2011Consent
11/05330/FUL .Creation of new service yard and new kitchen extract system.13/12/2011Application Permitted
12/00652/LBA .External alterations for the display of 1no. sign of individual built up letters, 2no. globe lanterns, 1no. post sign and 3no. car park signs.10/02/2012Consent
12/00651/AR .Display of 2no. 'Edward' lanterns, 1no. freestanding single post sign and 2 no. freestanding double post signs.10/02/2012Consent
18/03711/AR .Installation of illuminated & non-illuminated signs, fascia sign, 3 post mounted signs, wall display, sign writing & lantern.17/08/2018Pending Consideration
18/03760/LBA .External work to facilitate the installation of external signage, both illuminated and non-illuminated21/08/2018Pending Consideration
18/03981/FUL .Erection of pergola entrance structure at front of building (attached to existing picket fence) and infilling of two other existing openings in the picket fence with matching fencing.04/09/2018Pending Consideration

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Name Address Comment type Comment1 Comment2 Comment3 Date
Rob Styles 52 Vernham Grove, Odd Down, Bath, Bath And North East Somerset, BA2 2TB R 22/08/2018: Will the illuminated signs be switched off outside of business hours? 22/08/2018
Bath Preservation Trust Bath Preservation Trust , 1 Royal Crescent, City Centre, Bath, Bath And North East Somerset, BA1 2LR O 20/09/2018: Object: The Trust objects to elements of this signage application on the basis that they use low quality materials which do not enhance the listed building. We recognise the need for some illumination as is seen on public houses but will leave the consideration of the appropriateness of trough and LED to the case officer. Sign 1 to the front of the building is inappropriate in terms of materials, the faux timber cladding is an incongruous and low quality addition to a building of this style and the acrylic lettering is unacceptable. A far more appropriate response would be for the lettering to be handpainted to the fa├žade as is proposed in sign 8; as the building is white the lettering could be green to mirror the signage on the extension building. The hanging sign should be a traditional timber handpainted sign; it is not clear what materials this is proposed to be from the application. We would prefer not to see any extraneous signage cluttering the elevations such as the stamp (sign 2 and 5) as these detract from the special interest of the listed building, the one to the rear might be acceptable but the side elevation should be kept clear. We would prefer to see a hand painted timber approach for the signs 4a and 4b or at least a high quality printed metal to be used.
In addition we find the proposed pergola to the front garden to be completely unnecessary and unacceptable. Such an incongruous addition will obscure and clutter the front elevation of the listed building and therefore be visually harmful; such harm impacts on the special interest of the building. The pergola would appear to have no purpose beyond wayfinding and therefore harm is not outweighed public benefit.
The proposed elements of signage detailed above would neither preserve nor enhance the special interest of the listed building, the character and appearance of the local area and would detract from the special qualities of the WHS. The scheme would be contrary to Section 16 (Conserving and Enhancing the Historic Environment) of the NPPF, policies B1, B4, and CP6 of the B&NES Core Strategy and policies CP6, D.2, HE1, D.9, B.4, of the Placemaking Plan. We would therefore recommend the application be amended to withdraw this element of the proposals.
Bath Heritage Watchdog Not Given O Documents Tab 27/08/2018